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Bulldog Health and Feeding => General Health Discussion => Topic started by: Susan on August 07, 2005, 06:47:51 PM

Title: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: Susan on August 07, 2005, 06:47:51 PM
I have been using the Trident sugar less gum with Xylitol and had read before that it is dangerous to dogs so we make sure all packets are kept up out of their reach.  I assumed they would have to eat the gum in large quantities but obviously I was mistaken.  Please read the below post from one dog list through the BullieFX list:

KUSA-TV Denver Video Report
By Cheryl Preheim
KUSA-TV Denver

DENVER, CO -- Tele is a 7-month-old Golden Retriever who loves treats. So, when 2-year-old Jordan started feeding her mints, she loved it. "I was standing right there as my 2-year-old is handing one mint for
him, one mint for me type of game and it was literally six mints later that we started seeing signs," said Lindsey Davis, Jordan's mom. Within 15 minutes of eating six mints, Tele was having seizures and vomiting.

Davis took her to Aspenwood Animal Hospital on Colorado Boulevard. Dr. Julie Kelly said when Tele got there, "she was basically in a type of a coma."

A frantic call to Animal Poison Control revealed that Tele was being poisoned by Xylitol. "It is an artificial sweetener that is in sugarless chewing gums and mints and some household baking products," said Kelly. "It is life threatening to dogs. They can die very quickly." She says veterinarians are seeing more cases of Xylitol poisoning. "We
are starting to see these animals that are getting into people's purses or their children are giving them treats and dogs like to eat anything they can," said Kelly. Davis wants to warn other dog owners.

"The compound is as close as a hands reach of the check out stand so people need to know that this is toxic to dogs," she said.

Tele is back home and feeling better but the vet says she still needs to be watched closely to make sure there isn't any permanent liver damage.




Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: brumzoo on August 07, 2005, 08:40:30 PM
Thanks for the information!
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: cadillactaste on August 08, 2005, 02:03:11 PM
 :o I HAD NO IDEA~ I do appreciate this posting...To bring us all up to knowledge...And to better protect our beloved four legged friends~

It's totally amazing...That something as simple as that...And six lil' mints...Which couldn't have been a significantly large dose. Could be that...ALARMING...And do that sort of thing to our pets!

I chew the trident as well...And...Will definately keep a minds eye on the fact...That I need to have my purse put out of the reach of Tank!

I wonder what else I have in the house that contains that...I will have to go look. I mean...I am eating healthier. And watchin' what I eat...Whom knows what else could cause serious issues with that in it...
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: Milo the Bulldog on August 08, 2005, 02:41:38 PM
Thank you so much for the information!!! I forwarded this to all dog owners I know!
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: My Little Leo on August 08, 2005, 06:35:42 PM
Wow! That is scary! Thanks for the info! :)
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: luvnmybullies on August 17, 2005, 09:54:03 PM
Thank you soooooo much for the info. We eat alot of sugar free things in our house. I'll have to make sure they will never be able to get into them !!!!
Thanks again !!!
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: tonka on August 30, 2005, 08:55:02 AM
Do you think all artificial sweetner's are bad or just this specific one?  I bought the wrong yogurt for Tonka and it has aspertame in it and now I'm afraid to give it to him. 
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: MedicBarbie on September 27, 2005, 09:48:31 AM
Good to know...

I do the same thing, I buy sugar-free yogurt, so now I'm wondering as well about that!
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: Owned By Bullies on September 27, 2005, 11:20:42 AM
If anyone finds that ingredient in anything....post it. My husband is a diabetic and we have sugar free stuff around here all the time. Rocco stopped getting his favorite ice cream because of this thread...even though I don't see that ingredient on the label. I guess I am afraid that some of those big words on the label are going to turn up the same thing as Xylitol.
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: Lord Goliath on September 27, 2005, 11:41:51 AM
FYI - you might see xylitol listed as polyol as well.  The polyols are the sugar alcohols.
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: Taiko on October 03, 2005, 03:46:58 AM
Thanks for the info guys.

Are there other ingredients that are bad for bullies?

Thanks
Brony
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: Maxmydog on October 13, 2005, 09:17:08 PM
Good to know...

I do the same thing, I buy sugar-free yogurt, so now I'm wondering as well about that!

Is yogurt good for bulldogs?  I don't think I've heard of giving it to them?  Please, let me know...
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: bella-baby on October 13, 2005, 09:58:22 PM

Is yogurt good for bulldogs? I don't think I've heard of giving it to them? Please, let me know...

Plain yogurt is supposed to help with gas in a bully, I read on another sight that it helps with tear stains but I am not sure about that. Some people put mix a tbs in with there dogs food every night.
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: HundredAcres on October 14, 2005, 01:06:26 AM
The sweetener info was excellent!!!  I will definately print this out for my bullie families for future reference!!!

As for the yogurt...we give yogurt to the babies to help balance the "good and bad" bacterial elements inthe digestive track.  You can use Bene-bac or pro-Bios which has live cultures in it to balance out whatever is reaking havoc in the intestines, but yogurt works just as well.  When you are bringing up the babies, you give them the yogurt everytime there is a change in their digestive system so that the transition is easier on them...so at days 2 and 4, then at 1 week old, 2 weeks old and then at weaning time when they go from momma's milk to solid food.  A lot of folks will give their dogs yogurt when they have to have their dogs, young and old, on anti-biotics because the drugs are harsh on their stomachs. 

Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: Maxmydog on October 14, 2005, 07:57:14 AM
Thanks so much for the info on the yogurt.  I'll definately try it!!
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: tempus on November 01, 2006, 05:10:33 PM
Wow thanks for the info I had no Idea.
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: Remembering Teagan on January 28, 2007, 10:32:09 PM
WOW. That is amazing. I knew that chocolate and onions were bad for dogs but never would have given artificial sweeteners a thought. It's a wonder there are no pet warnings on these products. If you think about it logically, millions of people have pets so why not. Or maybe that is just unrealistic?
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: Maggpie on January 29, 2007, 12:00:27 AM
WOW. That is amazing. I knew that chocolate and onions were bad for dogs but never would have given artificial sweeteners a thought. It's a wonder there are no pet warnings on these products. If you think about it logically, millions of people have pets so why not. Or maybe that is just unrealistic?
Don't forget Grapes and Raisins too ;)  It kinda worries me if it is bad for the pups then is it bad for us too?  (the sweetner I am talking about)  I wonder if Splenda since it is from the sugar cane is included in this?
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: Remembering Teagan on January 29, 2007, 11:20:28 AM
Grapes too!? Uh Ohhh I use to give Teagan grapes split in half all the time. She use to love them. Why are they bad?
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: MedicBarbie on January 29, 2007, 11:30:28 AM
Here's some info on it for you ;)

Raisin and Grape Toxicity in Dogs

By Lauren Shifflett
LShifflett70@yahoo.com
Hyattsville, MD

 Although many dog owners and dog trainers have traditionally used raisins and grapes as treats, RAISINS AND GRAPES IN LARGE QUANTITIES CAN BE LETHAL TO DOGS.  As few as a handful of raisins or grapes can make a dog ill; however, of the 10 cases reported to the ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center (APCC), each dog ingested between 9 ounces and 2 pounds of grapes or raisins.

 

If your dog has ingested large quantities of raisins or grapes, (s)he will immediately begin to vomit repeatedly, and will become extremely hyperactive and jittery.  After about 24 hours, the dog will become lethargic and depressed.  (S)he may experience abdominal pain and may stop urinating, drinking, and/or eating.   (S)he will also become dehydrated.  Both his/her vomit and feces will contain partially digested raisins or grapes.  His/her breathing may become irregular, and (s)he will also become hypercalcemic (high calcium concentrations) and hyperphosphosphatemic

 

Ultimately, without treatment, the dog will go into renal (kidney) failure, and may die a horrible very painful death.  Of the 10 reported cases, only 5 dogs survived, & these only with early, aggressive, &  long-term treatment

The best cure for an overdose, of course, is prevention.  Because dogs can get hold of raisins or grapes from a variety of sources—the kitchen counter, the coffee table, vines in a private vineyard, a child’s lunch box—DOG PROOF YOUR VINEYARDS & REMOVE RAISINS AND GRAPES FROM CANINE REACH.  Do not feed your dog raisins/grapes as treats so that you can avoid him/her “getting a taste for them”.  Remember that raisins are even more concentrated (and hence more toxic) than grapes—approximately 4 pounds of grapes equal 1 pound of raisins.  The APCC also warns that any substance in large doses can be toxic.

However, if you suspect your dog has eaten a large amount of raisins or grapes, take your dog to a veterinarian immediately, and have them contact the Animal Poison Control Center for assistance.  Have your veterinarian initiate decontamination measures, and administer fluids and/or dialysis to assist/restart the dog’s kidneys.   Be aware that initially your veterinarian may suspect rat poison as the above symptoms are very similar to the symptoms of rat poison.

The APCC is still unable to determine the cause of renal (kidney) failure.  Possibilities include 1) an agent in grapes and raisins themselves; 2) fungicides, herbicides, or pesticides contamination; 3) heavy metals; 4) high amounts of Vitamin D; or 5) fungus or mold contamination.

 

Information on raisin and grape toxicity is still very new; therefore, your veterinarian and fellow dog owners may not yet be aware of the danger.   Please pass on this information to every dog owner, veterinarian, rescue group, breeder, newsletter, listserve, and pet food store you can.

 

For more information about grapes and raisin toxicity and/or all substances toxic to dogs and other animals, please see the ASCPA Animal Poison Control Center Website at: http://www.napcc.aspca.org

 

If you suspect your dog has ingested any poisonous substance, please CALL the APCC at  888-4ANI-HELP (888-426-4435) immediately.

 

Also please read “Renal failure associated with ingestion of grapes or raisins in dogs.” The Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association (JAVMA). May 15, 2001. Volume 218. Number 10. Pages 1555-1556.
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: ilovebuddah on May 02, 2008, 08:17:00 AM
I don't know if this falls into this catagroy but...I learned on this site that giving a SMALL amount of Sprite zero in my bullies water will keep the tear stains away (for the most part). Does this fall into the artifical sweetener catagory?? If so, I am stopping ASAP~
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: MedicBarbie on May 02, 2008, 10:34:09 AM
^^
Yup, it does - Sprite Zero has artificial sweeteners in it.

In reality, it's a very small amount, so I don't think you need to worry, however, it's something to think about.

If you're looking to switch, there are a few things you could try.  Apple cider vinegar (I like Braggs, the organic, unfiltered kind), about 1T to a bowl of water.  OR, try using filtered water.  :)
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: ilovebuddah on May 02, 2008, 10:36:36 AM
Wow, I am def switching. Maybe I will do the vinager...we are using filtered water, so thats good.

Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: higgys mom on August 07, 2009, 07:05:58 PM
is xylitol the same as stevia?   I let higgy have some of my yourget that i put stevia in sometimes.
Title: Re: artificial sweetener warning
Post by: BabeEnglishBulldog on March 24, 2012, 04:38:33 AM
There should be a law which prevents people from throwing their gums anywhere so that dogs cannot accidentally ingest the gums which contain Xylitol. I wish the government would grant that.